Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Politichikane?
This is a video, put on the net today by a young Muslim man stopped by the police for traffic offences, who doesn't have a driving license with him and who is previously on record for carrying a knife in public. Its in Danish, so its of limited interest to any one who doesn't understand whats being said, but I think it aptly illustrates the attitude of the Muslim immigrants who we've had to hear so much about in this country during the last decade or so.
The man has posted the video claiming police harrassment...
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Police brutality you say? Here's a a video of police brutality.
Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton calls the tape "disturbing" and "very graphic," but says a probe will determine whether the punching was warranted or not. The FBI is also investigating, the Times reports, and the local ACLU is denouncing the footage. The officers have been placed on desk duty temporarily.
After we get your anarchs and socialists, feel free to send us your cops as well.
LOL, you'd fall asleep at your keyboard Lesly
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
We have a few cops get out of line too. Last year two people were shot in two seperate suspicious incidents. Its not all sweetness and light
Well, the guy who posted the video as proof of police harassment thinks too much of his situation. There are always incidents, but harassment is a statistic, not a routine stop.
When racial profiling becomes a buzzword supported by facts it's closer to sweetness and light from where I'm standing.
Until racial profiling, rather.
The only thing odd about that video is that the cops don't seem in control of the situation. It strikes me as pretty nutty to let the driver get something out of the car once you pull him over.
Otherwise the cursing is pretty standard driver behavior.
Gun crime is exceptionally rare in Denmark and Danish police are not exected to react in the way American police are.
What is striking about the video, for me, is how the camera toting driver reacts to being pulled over for a minor traffic offence, especially in the second video where he gets pulled over a second time after violating the traffic laws immediately after the first video, and directly in front of the two officers. He is obviously under the impression that the only reason he has been stopped is because the police are racists. That he actually just broke a traffic law doesn't seem to factor into his brain at all.
Its this disparity between a mundane reality and a deliberate, over excited, reaction that characterizes how a great proportion of our Muslim minority regards their new found situation. Like the rioting left wingers who happily march along side Hizb'Allah and Hamas, the police are not police to these people, but racists out to keep them down. Nationalists are not simply motivated by love of country, but are Nazi's. Moderate politicians who tell extremists like Hizb ut Tahir to take a hike are 'Islamophobes spreading fear and hatred'.
There is never any compromise or willingness to not be offended and this constant deliberate over reaction fosters the sense of outrage that now permeates most of Muslim Europe. Every sngle country now has its equivalent of CAIR, forever pushing the anti western, pro sharia agenda, whilst accusing all and sundry of Islamophobia, racism and any other wicked deed that casts Muslims as the oppressed.
All this while Jews and Christians all over Europe are being attacked on a near daily basis by Muslims and these CAIR type organisations send money to terrorists in the Middle East.
It makes you want to throw up
Moif,
Deliberate and overexcited are at odds. It's one or the other.
Nationalists can be racists. Locals should sort that out, if necessary, include immigrants in the dialogue and avoid letting anarcs/socialists/Muslims rule the conversation.
Every sngle country now has its equivalent of CAIR, forever pushing the anti western, pro sharia agenda, whilst accusing all and sundry of Islamophobia, racism and any other wicked deed that casts Muslims as the oppressed.
So are Christians. I can't say how church and state should interact in Europe, but it continuously amazes me that a continent known for its liberalism would produce states that deign to finance religious institutions and countenance religious judicial arbitration.
Oh, I think you can make a deliberate decision to be over excited, or indignant or just plain belligerent. It happens all the time with our Muslim community 'leaders'.
Our version of CAIR is called the Islamisk Trosamfund. Its not very powerful in any political sense, but it gets refered to constantly by the media as representing Denmarks 250,000 Muslims. It is an undemocratic organisation whose leaders are constantly in the news for their extremist opinions. The latest was forced to step down after he marched along side Hizb ut Tahir, caling for the over throw of western secular society and the re-establishment of 'the Grand Caliphate'.
One might be excused for thinking that the Islamisk Trosamfund is not considered valid by the majority of Muslims in Denmark, but unfortunately the bottom line is, no Muslims here ever complain about its excesses, at least not in public, whilst we see democratically elected Muslim politicians, like Naser Khader, forced to have constant police protection because they have put democracy, and Danish citizenship before Islam.
As for Rowan Williams, he's basically a lost cause. He's the typical product of a left wing British church which is more willing to compromise people's fundamanetal human rights if it can be seen to be 'inclusive'. In the UK, the drive to be 'inclusive' has long since taken on a momentum devoid of reason. Thankfully not all religious people agree with him and I can only hope that the people behind Rowan Williams help him leave office as soon as possible. I'm not holding my breath however.
it continuously amazes me that a continent known for its liberalism would produce states that deign to finance religious institutions and countenance religious judicial arbitration.
Its not a case of 'producing' religious institutions. You have to remember how old some of these religious institutions are. The Vatican for example is far older, and better established than half the states in Europe, it has had a solid base of support, despite its countless crimes against humanity, because of its very nature. Christians are just as irratioal when it comes to judging their religion as Muslims.
The difference between Muslims and Christians in Europe is profound though. Whilst Christains and their leaders might talk shit, they don't go around threatening, and carrying out holy war (aka inner struggle) against artists. There are no explosions of crime statistics around Christian ghetto's and Christian men are not seen to be responsible for vastly disproportional numbers of sexual crimes compared to the rest of society.
Granted, the Muslims haven't been here as long so they're not so well established, but given the birth rate of the average Muslim woman, compared to the average European woman, we might not have that long left before the Muslims reach such numbers as they can implement what ever social changes they wish. Bruxelles will have a majority Muslim population within a decade and I refuse to believe that a process of 'Islamification' is going to go smoothly. Right now the average Euro citizen is more concerned with working hard to be able to afford to live in Europe, but if the economic down turn that every one is predicting sets in, and poverty returns here as it did a hundred years ago, I don't doubt that civil war will erupt in Europes heart land.
I'm a nationalist, but I'm not a racist (despite what NT might think). I have no problem with Arabs or Turks who come to Denmark to be Danes, regardless of their religious belief's. My tolerance ends when people begin to demand their religious belief's take precedence over my secular rights however. When it comes to my rights, and those of my daughter being pushed aside to make way for Islamic customs and/or law, then I have no sense of humour what so ever.
And the same goes for the EU. I want out of it. I do not see any advantage to a federal European super state. Only a gravy train for big business and the political elite, one that will shit long and hard on the people of Europe and which is doing all it can to bring in millions of foreigners in a deliberate attempt to dillute the former states of Europe and turn them into nothing more than administrative districts.
If however my fellow Danes continue to vote for the EU, you will not see my turning to violence, nor pulling up my roots and leaving. I accept fully the outcome of the Danish people's decision, even if I think we're making a big mistake.
Every day brings a new example. Here is todays
COPENHAGEN — Danish Muslims link the racist murder of a Muslim teen last week to an increasing Islamophobic atmosphere fanned by the reprinting of a cartoon satirical of prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
"Deniz Ozgur Uzun was killed because of his dark, Middle Eastern skin," Jihad Abdelalim Alfara, the chairman of the Islamic Council in Denmark, told IslamOnline.net.
According to the police and local childrens authorities, there is nothing to indicate a racist or religious motivation to this murder. All the evidence points to some kind of local gang or personal grudge.
And, even if there was a racist angle to this murder, its telling that Jihad Abdelalim Alfara negates to take into account the young Italian tourist who was stabbed to death by two muslim youths a few years back within an hour of arriving in Copenhagen, simply because they mistook him for an American.
Then again, I don't suppose killing an American would even be a crime to any one named Jihad. After all, 'Americaphobia' is quite popular these days.
Its also worth noting that this Jihad Abdelalim Alfara writes as though he is speaking on behalf of all Denmarks Muslims, which he is not. At best the Islamisk Trosamfund has a few thousand members.
Sorry to respond so late.
The Vatican for example is far older, and better established than half the states in Europe, it has had a solid base of support, despite its countless crimes against humanity, because of its very nature.
I know, and I’m sure as a status quo benefactor they, along with other Christian religions, made sure they would get their share from the socialist state. There may be other reasons why the state funds the church, such as with France’s revolution and the belief that the church is subordinate to the state and must be regulated (and funded) like any other institution.
The scheme would continue to “work” (personally the idea of funding any religious organization is abhorrent to me) if nothing changes. But time changes everything, and now Islam is poised to make the most what already exists by way of state support.
Granted, the Muslims haven't been here as long so they're not so well established, but given the birth rate of the average Muslim woman, compared to the average European woman, we might not have that long left before the Muslims reach such numbers as they can implement what ever social changes they wish.
The only way I see the demographics making a radical change is if (1) the state backs off protecting women’s rights, (2) Muslim girls, as one mind, adopt the traditional Muslim lifestyle, and (3) Muslim women don’t take BC behind their husband’s back. Of the three, I think two are not likely to occur and (1) is the most important.
Right now the average Euro citizen is more concerned with working hard to be able to afford to live in Europe, but if the economic down turn that every one is predicting sets in, and poverty returns here as it did a hundred years ago, I don't doubt that civil war will erupt in Europe’s heartland.
Very astute.
In Denmark, the church is funded only sparesly by the state, and we see more churches being shut down than new ones built. So far, no mosque has been granted state funding, that I am aware of, though I believe religious societies can receieve certain moneys from the state under the same funding laws as any other society. I'm not actually sure what these entail.
Denmark is a nation full of socities by the way. Steam enthusiast socieites, diving society's, gardening society,s, social society's. The list is endless. Just about every one seems to be a member of some society or other (not me though, I'm doing my utmost to be an eccentric recluse)
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